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Dybbølsgade 60, 1721 København V

Torsdage og fredage kl. 15-18, lørdage og søndage kl. 14-17


Christian Otto, Ayumi Rahn

28.09.2013 - 06.10.2013


1: We have to think about what we want to say. The bestthing would be to note down everything. All the points. Everything that comes into our heads.
2: OK.
1: It's important how we start.
2: The beginning.
1: It's important to not directly describe the concept.
2: Good.
1: The concept must be captured indirectly. From the side.
2: Yes.
1: So? Do you have any idea how we should start?
2: Why not exactly like this? Let's start with you suggesting not to describe theconcept directly.

1: In the dialogue I will be ☆.
2: How do you mean?
☆: ☆.
2: What?! You are C.O. and I am A.R.!
☆: Under no circumstances do I want my name to be revealed.
A.R.: But aren't we exhibiting under our own names?
☆: So what.
A.R.: Why should pseudonyms talk about our concept, or talk indirectly about our concept, or talk about us talking indirectly about our concept? We should be talking. Everything else is pointless.
Art: And if I were to be Art?
A.R.: Who would I be then?
Art1: I'll be Art1 and you'll be Art2.
Art2: I am the one who decides who's talking, and I thinkyou should be C.O.

C.O.: The works look good next to each other.
A.R.: You think so?
C.O.: Perhaps you might try to imitate my work some time, and vice versa?
A.R.: Or you carry on working where I left off?
C.O.: Regarding the starting point-
A.R.: Yeah, what is your starting point?
C.O.: The rose window is definitely not the starting point.
A.R.: Because starting points are seldom in the window, more likely to be in the archives.
C.O.: No. I don't like these words.
A.R.: Because if there were starting points in the archive,then the rose window would be like a lens, bundling the light from different directions and dispersing it again.
C.O.: Wow, that sounds awful.
A.R.: You're right.
C.O.: It can't be written like that.
A.R.: OK.

C.O.: The gradient is no good. It's too simple.
A.R.: That's exactly what I like. I think it's great.
C.O.: Suppose you got given this flyer. You didn't make it, you're seeing it for the first time. Would this exhibition interest you?
A.R.: Absolutely!
C.O.: You're saying that because you made the flyer. Imagine now, that you didn't make it.
A.R.: Totally objectively? If I saw this flyer, I would definitely want to see this exhibition.
C.O.: You're lying.


Ayumi Rahn (1980) studied fine art in Munich and Vienna.
Christian Otto (1979) studied at the Academy of Fine Arts in Vienna.
Since their graduation in 2007 and 2008 they both live and work in Berlin.

For their first joint exhibition they developed a series of works on paper, l'ost, based on a repetitive window structure, in which dialogue-like statements about the possibilities of appropriation, extension or rejecton of this structure become visible.

www.christianotto.ws, www.ayumi-rahn.de



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